Difference between FDS and IDS - Guild Wars Forums

Emcha · Sep 16, 2007, 05:23 PM // 17:23

I presently got my first FDS of fortitude giving me a fire dmg of 14-19 with a health of +21

but i have a icy longsword of charr slaying that gives me a cold damage of 15-22. DMG +15% vs hexed foes, dmg + 20% (customization) and dmg +20% with charrs

I was wondering if the IDS was the same rating as the FDS if so I would simply keep the icy sword i have now

dies like fish · Sep 16, 2007, 05:27 PM // 17:27

[wiki]Icy Dragon Sword[/wiki]

Masseur · Sep 16, 2007, 05:27 PM // 17:27

Icy Dragon Swords are req 9, dmg 15-22
dmg+15% (while HP>50%)

You can add a sword pommel only

Emcha · Sep 16, 2007, 05:42 PM // 17:42

ok so the cold dmg is the same, if I change the pummel would it change the blade design by any change?

martialis · Sep 16, 2007, 06:04 PM // 18:04

No, the mods of a sword have no effect on the appearance. The only thing that will change the appearance is dye, which usually has a small effect.

Commander Ryker · Sep 16, 2007, 06:33 PM // 18:33

Firey Dragon Sword

[wiki]Icy Dragon Sword[/wiki]

Emcha · Sep 16, 2007, 07:27 PM // 19:27

ok thanks I was just wondering why the fiery had a lower dmg than the icy.

Commander Ryker · Sep 16, 2007, 07:31 PM // 19:31

Because it wasn't max and the icy is 15^50.

HawkofStorms · Sep 16, 2007, 10:06 PM // 22:06

The way a weapon looks has no affect on stats. IDSs aren't going to do more or less damage then FDSs or any other kind of sword. Some FDSs will have max damage, others will not. You can find any weapon with any skin that has max damage stats.

God Apprentice · Sep 16, 2007, 10:17 PM // 22:17

FDS- Fire Damage

IDS- Ice Damage

Both are elemental damage. The only difference really, is the element type.

Kong · Sep 16, 2007, 10:45 PM // 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emcha

ok thanks I was just wondering why the fiery had a lower dmg than the icy.

Because the one thing that no one has mentioned is that fiery dragon swords (FDS) drop everywhere in the game, they can be white blue purple or gold and the damage they inflict depends on the type of drop and where it was dropped in the game, and the requirements are randomly generated on the item requiring anywhere from 7 to 13 swordsmanship.

Early areas in the game you will probably see white and blue FDSs dropping but they will more than likely NOT be max dmg 15-22 and they might not have a damage modifier, also known as Inscriptions in Nightfall and Eye of hte North.

So, unlike the FDS the Icy Dragon Sword (IDS) is a special item.

It only drops in one location of the game (the Ice Imp cave in the north-east corner of Mineral Springs) and only drops from one enemy, the Ice Imps. They are also always Gold items (used to be blue but Anet changed it due to low drop rates with the new farming code), they always have max dmg 15-22 and always have a requirement of 9 swordmanship, they also always have a dmg modifier of +15% (while Health is above 50%).

moriz · Sep 16, 2007, 10:50 PM // 22:50

also keep in mind that you cannot change the sword hilts on both swords. that means, you can never get a sundering FDS or IDS.

bsoltan · Sep 16, 2007, 11:25 PM // 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emcha

I presently got my first FDS of fortitude giving me a fire dmg of 14-19 with a health of +21

but i have a icy longsword of charr slaying that gives me a cold damage of 15-22. DMG +15% vs hexed foes, dmg + 20% (customization) and dmg +20% with charrs

I was wondering if the IDS was the same rating as the FDS if so I would simply keep the icy sword i have now

People have already linked to the FDS and IDS pages on the wikis and provided information about them.

Of the two swords that you have mentioned here one is an FDS, however the other is not an IDS, it is just a Long Sword with an Ice Damage upgrade. This upgrade can be changed.

You will find Fiery Dragon Swords throughout the game that are not max, so using the Icy Longsword you currently have is a much better option, you would be best off selling the FDS to a Merchant.

Emcha · Sep 17, 2007, 10:57 AM // 10:57

Thank you all for you answer.

I will keep this FDS until I can find a better one as Fire dmg is a lot better on ice based foes than ice dmg

Kale Ironfist · Sep 17, 2007, 12:01 PM // 12:01

Keep them both. Some enemies have elemental weaknesses, and some have elemental strengths, and it's better to be prepared so that you can deal more damage.

Emcha · Sep 18, 2007, 01:11 PM // 13:11

yep thats what I meant.

Sep 16, 2007, 05:23 PM // 17:23	#1
Emcha Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2007 Profession: R/Mo	Difference between FDS and IDS I presently got my first FDS of fortitude giving me a fire dmg of 14-19 with a health of +21 but i have a icy longsword of charr slaying that gives me a cold damage of 15-22. DMG +15% vs hexed foes, dmg + 20% (customization) and dmg +20% with charrs I was wondering if the IDS was the same rating as the FDS if so I would simply keep the icy sword i have now

Sep 16, 2007, 06:33 PM // 18:33	#6
Commander Ryker Site Contributor Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: R/	Firey Dragon Sword [wiki]Icy Dragon Sword[/wiki] Last edited by Commander Ryker; Sep 16, 2007 at 06:36 PM // 18:36..

Sep 16, 2007, 07:31 PM // 19:31	#8
Commander Ryker Site Contributor Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: R/	Because it wasn't max and the icy is 15^50. Last edited by Commander Ryker; Sep 16, 2007 at 07:34 PM // 19:34..

Sep 16, 2007, 05:27 PM // 17:27	#2
dies like fish Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: Winter Wonderland [brrr] Profession: W/E	[wiki]Icy Dragon Sword[/wiki]

Sep 16, 2007, 05:27 PM // 17:27	#3
Masseur Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Southern California Profession: R/Mo	Icy Dragon Swords are req 9, dmg 15-22 dmg+15% (while HP>50%) You can add a sword pommel only

Sep 16, 2007, 05:42 PM // 17:42	#4
Emcha Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2007 Profession: R/Mo	ok so the cold dmg is the same, if I change the pummel would it change the blade design by any change?

Sep 16, 2007, 06:04 PM // 18:04	#5
martialis Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: RA, reporting you	No, the mods of a sword have no effect on the appearance. The only thing that will change the appearance is dye, which usually has a small effect.

Sep 16, 2007, 07:27 PM // 19:27	#7
Emcha Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2007 Profession: R/Mo	ok thanks I was just wondering why the fiery had a lower dmg than the icy.

Sep 16, 2007, 10:06 PM // 22:06	#9
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	The way a weapon looks has no affect on stats. IDSs aren't going to do more or less damage then FDSs or any other kind of sword. Some FDSs will have max damage, others will not. You can find any weapon with any skin that has max damage stats.

Sep 16, 2007, 10:17 PM // 22:17	#10
God Apprentice Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: Mo/N	FDS- Fire Damage IDS- Ice Damage Both are elemental damage. The only difference really, is the element type.

Sep 16, 2007, 10:50 PM // 22:50	#12
moriz ??ber t??k-n??sh'??n Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Profession: R/	also keep in mind that you cannot change the sword hilts on both swords. that means, you can never get a sundering FDS or IDS.

Sep 17, 2007, 10:57 AM // 10:57	#14
Emcha Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2007 Profession: R/Mo	Thank you all for you answer. I will keep this FDS until I can find a better one as Fire dmg is a lot better on ice based foes than ice dmg

Sep 17, 2007, 12:01 PM // 12:01	#15
Kale Ironfist Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Australia Guild: Venatio Illuminata [VEIL] Profession: W/	Keep them both. Some enemies have elemental weaknesses, and some have elemental strengths, and it's better to be prepared so that you can deal more damage.

Sep 18, 2007, 01:11 PM // 13:11	#16
Emcha Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2007 Profession: R/Mo	yep thats what I meant.